Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

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dekedubya
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Re: Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

Post by dekedubya » Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:34 pm

You cannot use the windows flashers to recover this drive. You must use dosflash which is on the recovery image. Download the recover iso and use rufus to write it to a USB thumbdrive.

Your PC needs to be in IDE mode (and drive connected to SATA port 0 or 1) to be able to use dosflash. No IDE mode means no drive recovery.
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Even using these steps, the drive is not being recognized, most likely a complete brick, another hard-
school lesson learned-will have to get a new or used one as others are & do the downgrade steps, but CAREFULLY! Thanks.
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UPDATE!!
After some diligent searching I found an eBay seller who mentioned the details of the UHD issue because it is what he specializes in, & then some!

I purchased one of this sellers' modified LGWH14NS40 burners, & as promised it works perfectly on my laptop connected by my Vantec Nextstar USB Enclosure, though I have no interest in 4K Blu Ray discs as I don't own any; salvaging my damaged regular Blu-Ray movie discs, & the ability to burn BD-RE discs on my windows, were my only intentions.

Since this new modified drive worked for me IF allowed, I am sharing the U.S. eBay seller's description with the link below the line in quotes (go to the link for described pics), to help other U.S. forum "idiots" who made the same mistake I did, resulting in an extra softbricked LG drive I now have serving as a paperweight!

I should note, that I know nothing about this seller other than what info is listed on eBay, or if the seller is/was ever affilated with this forum, but I can confirm the unit I got from this seller WORKS, & all of the downgrading work has been done for the customer, making it worth the extra investment & slightly higher price for it being an otherwise "bare drive". And if you go to the link as a logged in buyer you will see that the seller is "top rated" at 100%.
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Modified LGWH14NS40 listing by eBay seller phightinphan
(as of 9-14-20)

[/b] https://www.ebay.com/ipp/224102432739?t ... 675.l48352

"Brand new LG WH14NS40 that came from the factory with firmware 1.03 or 1.04, depending on date of manufacture. With 1.03 or 1.04 installed, these drives are not able to read a 4K disc, developed in an effort to further the anti-piracy movement. I have changed the firmware to that of the LG WH16NS40 version 1.02, the last stable version that makes these drives capable of reading 4K discs.

This drive will function as a regular WH14NS40 would. What makes my drive special is additionally it will READ a 4K disc, guaranteed. 4K was developed around anti-piracy, so PLAYING a 4K disc on your PC has a huge list of requirements. This is only one piece of the 4K chain. I CANNOT guarantee you will be able to plug this in and play a 4K disc on your PC. It will, however, READ a 4K disc. Therefore, with additional software (NOT included in this auction), this drive can provide you options to decrypt, rip, burn, copy, etc, giving the potential to change a 4K disc to a playable file format. Additionally, "official UHD" drives now come with a firmware installed that make them incompatible with copying software. You CANNOT just go out and buy a 4K drive and start ripping files! The ONLY solution is to have a drive like this that is "UHD friendly".

Works with DeUHD, DVDFab UHD, AnyDVD HD & MakeMKV (LibreDrive enabled). Reads 3D Blu-Ray. Works with BDXL. Compatible with Windows and Mac.

Pic #2 proves the drive reads a 4K disc. It shows the LG drive set as Drive K. Note the movie title and the size of the disc at 53.9GB, regular blu rays max out at 50GB. (PLEASE NOTE, the 4K movie pictured here is NOT included in this auction!)

Pic #3 shows the hardware IDs in My Computer showing the current firmware installed, firmware 1.02.

All drives are brand new and tested for 4K compatibility after the firmware has been changed. This drive has been removed from original packaging once, hooked to my PC to change the firmware, tested by inserting a 4K disc, and back in the original packaging. Other than that, it is absolutely brand new. The optical drive is the only item included in this listing. No additional cables, software, or mounting hardware is included.

Due to the nature of this listing, I guarantee the drive not to be DOA, that it will function as a regular WH14NS40 would, and additionally read 4K discs. Otherwise no returns are accepted. All drives are carefully packed to ensure safe arrival. In the unlikely event you should receive a damaged or defective drive (again, ALL drives are tested after changing firmware), a replacement drive will be sent in it's place.
Please note although I have multiple drives in this listing they are sold individually, as each, and the price listed is for ONE (1) drive.

Beware of newbies on here listing UHD friendly drives. If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, I am EXTREMELY flattered. Others love to copy my ideas and my listing, sometimes word for word. Rest assured, I am the original, trusted UHD friendly drive seller on eBay and have the history and feedback to prove it - no one else can back that statement up like I can. I am the ONLY Top Rated UHD seller and the ONLY UHD seller with 1,000+ feedback. I have been modifying and selling UHD drives since April, 2018 and have sold over 800 UHD friendly drives. Please take the time to read my feedback, I take great pride in what I sell. I have seen it all and done it all in the UHD friendly drive world!

I ship FAST, sometimes same day, usually within 1 business day. By this I mean your item will be dropped off at the shipping facility within this time frame. Additionally, your bid will be a confident one as I am an eBay member for over 20 years and have a 100% positive feedback score since day one. [/b]

Free priority shipping to the lower 48 states only. Feel free to contact me for a quote otherwise, or with any additional questions.

Thank you for reading and best of luck to you!!" [/b]

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Re: Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

Post by Billycar11 » Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:00 am

dekedubya wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:34 pm

Beware of newbies on here listing UHD friendly drives.
just saying me marty and alex were here helping far more people then he ever has and he probably used firmware or flashers made by marty or me at some point.
just saying we sell the drives here to so do consider us
Buy a UHD drive from the guide and how to videos maker: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17831
Ultimate UHD Drives Flashing Guide Updated 2020: https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 16&t=19634

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Re: Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

Post by lucbm » Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:26 pm

I am trying to recover my WH14NS40 drive after updating with NS50 firmware. However, when I use the EEPROM DATA MOVER, the message "incorrect firmware file" appears. No matter what I do, it always shows the same error message. Any suggestion?

st4evr
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Re: Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

Post by st4evr » Wed Jan 13, 2021 5:16 am

lucbm wrote:
Tue Jan 12, 2021 8:26 pm
I am trying to recover my WH14NS40 drive after updating with NS50 firmware. However, when I use the EEPROM DATA MOVER, the message "incorrect firmware file" appears. No matter what I do, it always shows the same error message. Any suggestion?
Have you by any chance already tried the recovery mode found in the SDFTool as also discussed and linked in the following thread?

https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... ked#p99438

And as it’s also advised there, be sure to take the time to carefully read the instructions to possibly avoid further breaking/bricking your drive and leave it completely unfixable. If that tool nor the DOS flashing method works, then in fact it may be too late and you should just move on and buy a new drive.

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Re: Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

Post by lucbm » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:05 pm

My drive is recognized by the applications. I can read, erase and write firmware. However, the firmware extracted from the unit always gives the error message on the EEPROM DATA MOVER: incorrect firmware file !!!

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Re: Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

Post by MartyMcNuts » Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:47 pm

lucbm wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:05 pm
My drive is recognized by the applications. I can read, erase and write firmware. However, the firmware extracted from the unit always gives the error message on the EEPROM DATA MOVER: incorrect firmware file !!!
What did you use to extract your current firmware and can you tell us the size of the output file.
Cheers :D
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Re: Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

Post by jonghotti » Thu Jan 14, 2021 4:34 pm

Billycar11 wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:00 am
dekedubya wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:34 pm

Beware of newbies on here listing UHD friendly drives.
just saying me marty and alex were here helping far more people then he ever has and he probably used firmware or flashers made by marty or me at some point.
just saying we sell the drives here to so do consider us
What did I miss?
The Original "UHD Friendly" Drive Seller
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17829

lucbm
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Re: Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

Post by lucbm » Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:23 pm

MartyMcNuts wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:47 pm
lucbm wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:05 pm
My drive is recognized by the applications. I can read, erase and write firmware. However, the firmware extracted from the unit always gives the error message on the EEPROM DATA MOVER: incorrect firmware file !!!
What did you use to extract your current firmware and can you tell us the size of the output file.
I used 2 applications: dosflash32 and sdftool flasher.
Both firmwares had an error in the EEPROM Data Mover.
Output file size: both 2048 kb, but generated different files.

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Re: Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

Post by MartyMcNuts » Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:30 pm

lucbm wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:23 pm
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:47 pm
lucbm wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:05 pm
My drive is recognized by the applications. I can read, erase and write firmware. However, the firmware extracted from the unit always gives the error message on the EEPROM DATA MOVER: incorrect firmware file !!!
What did you use to extract your current firmware and can you tell us the size of the output file.
I used 2 applications: dosflash32 and sdftool flasher.
Both firmwares had an error in the EEPROM Data Mover.
Output file size: both 2048 kb, but generated different files.
You're the first person I've ever heard of that is having trouble with EEPROM data mover!!

Ok, don't use the file from sdftool with eeprom data mover. Only use the dosflash one. Also, when using eeprom data mover, are you selecting the 2 files the right way around?
Cheers :D
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Re: Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

Post by lucbm » Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:09 am

MartyMcNuts wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 11:30 pm
lucbm wrote:
Thu Jan 14, 2021 5:23 pm
MartyMcNuts wrote:
Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:47 pm


What did you use to extract your current firmware and can you tell us the size of the output file.
I used 2 applications: dosflash32 and sdftool flasher.
Both firmwares had an error in the EEPROM Data Mover.
Output file size: both 2048 kb, but generated different files.
You're the first person I've ever heard of that is having trouble with EEPROM data mover!!

Ok, don't use the file from sdftool with eeprom data mover. Only use the dosflash one. Also, when using eeprom data mover, are you selecting the 2 files the right way around?

In fact, I cannot continue the process, as the first file requested is the extracted firmware.
The error message appears and I cannot proceed.
I believe my driver is dead.

Sorry for English...

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Re: Help an idiot with a 1st gen WH14NS40

Post by jonghotti » Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:30 pm

Billycar11 wrote:
Tue Sep 15, 2020 12:00 am
dekedubya wrote:
Mon Sep 14, 2020 10:34 pm

Beware of newbies on here listing UHD friendly drives.
just saying me marty and alex were here helping far more people then he ever has and he probably used firmware or flashers made by marty or me at some point.
just saying we sell the drives here to so do consider us
Yes I'm not sure why it was necessary to paste that guy's drivel here.
The Original "UHD Friendly" Drive Seller
https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 20&t=17829

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