Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

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Manixx2020beyound
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Manixx2020beyound » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:05 pm

I think it’s static with dynamic adjustments made apon capture (my guess) using camera sensors. Dynamic adjustments baked in maybe.
On the 23.976 I assumed as I don’t have the iPhone 12
I’m using the max pro11 for encoding which could mean my phone lacks some features/hardware
I use these apps
The hevc app can be used for M2ts to produce raw h265 with meta then input into flimmakerpro/I movie, tested a clip of doctor sleep but colors seem to be off,oled
As for captures in doblyvision only u would know if colors are correct.
As for now not sure I want to get it until more testing.
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Boss21
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by Boss21 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:32 pm

Please can you share link for ts muxer 8.1 fix download for making Dolby vision profile 8 for the iPhone pro 12max
Thanks

dcoke22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by dcoke22 » Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:25 am

The GitHub page for tsMuxer (https://github.com/justdan96/tsMuxer) has links for where to find the latest builds.

seleste
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by seleste » Sat Nov 21, 2020 3:55 pm

Can someone share their experience of using FLAC in Dolby Vision mp4? I have a 2.0 PCM audio which I'd like to convert to FLAC.
eac3to does it perfectly, here's the result

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Audio
Format                                   : FLAC
Format/Info                              : Free Lossless Audio Codec
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 1 177 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Bit depth                                : 24 bits
Compression mode                         : Lossless
Stream size                              : 1.07 GiB (100%)
Writing library                          : libFLAC 1.2.1 (UTC 2007-09-17)
Then I feed it to Mp4Box for a final demux and the FLAC track looks like that MediaInfo

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Audio #2
ID                                       : 4
Format                                   : fLaC
Codec ID                                 : fLaC
Duration                                 : 2 h 10 min
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 1 177 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 1 712 kb/s
Stream size                              : 1.07 GiB (2%)
Title                                    : Original Audio
Language                                 : English
Encoded date                             : UTC 2020-11-21 01:28:57
Tagged date                              : UTC 2020-11-21 01:29:09
Channel(s), Channel layout, Compression mode, Bit depth values are not being displayed in final mp4. And the Codec ID may not be correct, I think it should be A_FLAC.

Does Mp4Box remove those values or structure of mp4 container doesn't like those particular metadata lines? All other audio formats (DTS, DTS-HD, AC3) retain their parameters within .mp4 container, but not FLAC?

lexyz
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by lexyz » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:41 pm

New interesting sample
Totall Recall
Shuttle landing scene
This particular scene was encoded by disk makers with extremely low bitrate - about 1.5 mbits for base layer :o
BL+EL combined are about 40% more :shock:
You won't find such difference anywhere else!
Do you want to see EL impact? - Here it is :D

Files for testing: https://gofile.io/d/G4kmDd
Bravia XF90, Shield TV Pro'19, UBP-X700

koolkunz
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by koolkunz » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:43 am

PlatypusW wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:50 pm
koolkunz wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:23 pm
using the v0.0.4_BETA_TEST_17102020 method for movies with truehd audio seems to work for now. It is a much longer process than v0.0.4_GAMMA_07112020 but no audio delay issues with truehd audio.
Yeah, but if you need a mkv at the end, I found with quite a few titles that the Dolby vision layers / dual video tracks end up out of sync with beta - which is a lot worse than the audio :P
making mkv using makemkv right ? after demuxing the MEL BL_EL_RPU file and muxing them in tsmuxer to iso?
how do you check that the DV layers end up out of sync or not?

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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by shawnc22 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:16 am

lexyz wrote:
Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:41 pm
New interesting sample
Totall Recall
Shuttle landing scene
This particular scene was encoded by disk makers with extremely low bitrate - about 1.5 mbits for base layer :o
BL+EL combined are about 40% more :shock:
You won't find such difference anywhere else!
Do you want to see EL impact? - Here it is :D

Files for testing: https://gofile.io/d/G4kmDd
Been hearing some pretty negative things about this release over at the blu-ray forums. It sounds like it wasn't a very good encode by the StudioCanal folks. Let's see what the Lionsgate release (assuming it's a different encode) in two weeks looks like.

lexyz
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by lexyz » Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:40 am

shawnc22 wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:16 am
Been hearing some pretty negative things about this release over at the blu-ray forums. It sounds like it wasn't a very good encode by the StudioCanal folks. Let's see what the Lionsgate release (assuming it's a different encode) in two weeks looks like.
Shuttle scene is atrocious indeed
But with this sample I see more film grain back in DV and it works like dithering for poor-encoded BL
DV looks noticably better than HDR10

Few observastion from sample without conclusions
DLST is identical to DLDT on UBP-X700
DLST on Shield has noticably lower PQ in compare to UBP-X700

Btw Lionsgate uses SC encode

And another sample
Grinch (FEL) https://gofile.io/d/WO2j3E
This is CG without any film grain to test gradient quality
There is a nice day time change around 1 min mark with red to blue sky gradient
Shield demonstrates pixalisation
Bravia XF90, Shield TV Pro'19, UBP-X700

PlatypusW
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by PlatypusW » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:01 pm

koolkunz wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:43 am
PlatypusW wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:50 pm
koolkunz wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:23 pm
using the v0.0.4_BETA_TEST_17102020 method for movies with truehd audio seems to work for now. It is a much longer process than v0.0.4_GAMMA_07112020 but no audio delay issues with truehd audio.
Yeah, but if you need a mkv at the end, I found with quite a few titles that the Dolby vision layers / dual video tracks end up out of sync with beta - which is a lot worse than the audio :P
making mkv using makemkv right ? after demuxing the MEL BL_EL_RPU file and muxing them in tsmuxer to iso?
how do you check that the DV layers end up out of sync or not?
Correct. Makemkv will tell you that the two layers are out of sync, seems to always occur at just after the 47 minute mark (duration of the file). If makemkv doesn’t warn you about it, you should be fine. It’s pretty obvious when it happens as makemkv suppressed the warning due too many of them.

It will still complete fine, but then when you try to watch the file, once you get to 47 minutes, as the layers are out of sync, the video just starts flashing constantly.

Has been discussed in one of these topics somewhere - the only way to avoid it for now is to use Gamma. That said, it only happened on 4/5 titles I tried so you might be okay with some.

koolkunz
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by koolkunz » Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:00 pm

PlatypusW wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:01 pm
koolkunz wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:43 am
PlatypusW wrote:
Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:50 pm


Yeah, but if you need a mkv at the end, I found with quite a few titles that the Dolby vision layers / dual video tracks end up out of sync with beta - which is a lot worse than the audio :P
making mkv using makemkv right ? after demuxing the MEL BL_EL_RPU file and muxing them in tsmuxer to iso?
how do you check that the DV layers end up out of sync or not?
Correct. Makemkv will tell you that the two layers are out of sync, seems to always occur at just after the 47 minute mark (duration of the file). If makemkv doesn’t warn you about it, you should be fine. It’s pretty obvious when it happens as makemkv suppressed the warning due too many of them.

It will still complete fine, but then when you try to watch the file, once you get to 47 minutes, as the layers are out of sync, the video just starts flashing constantly.

Has been discussed in one of these topics somewhere - the only way to avoid it for now is to use Gamma. That said, it only happened on 4/5 titles I tried so you might be okay with some.
ok thanks will keep an eye out for it, so far I have only done 3-4 titles total and all have turned out fine as I watched each of them from start to finish.

fib1985
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by fib1985 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:45 pm

Hi guys,

just got the new lg cx.
it's still good follow the instructions in the begin #1 of this thread ? ac3 + mp4 method (works well with my c8). thanks

PlatypusW
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by PlatypusW » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:47 pm

fib1985 wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:45 pm
Hi guys,

just got the new lg cx.
it's still good follow the instructions in the begin #1 of this thread ? ac3 + mp4 method (works well with my c8). thanks
Afraid not. Dual layer playback in mp4 method on CX was removed / never even existed on CX to begin with.

We ran some tests a few weeks ago:

https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 540#p98828

fib1985
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by fib1985 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:52 pm

PlatypusW wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:47 pm
fib1985 wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:45 pm
Hi guys,

just got the new lg cx.
it's still good follow the instructions in the begin #1 of this thread ? ac3 + mp4 method (works well with my c8). thanks
Afraid not. Dual layer playback in mp4 method on CX was removed / never even existed on CX to begin with.

We ran some tests a few weeks ago:

https://www.makemkv.com/forum/viewtopic ... 540#p98828
thats a shame... another way to run it ? or it's still not possible. thank you !

userr
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by userr » Sun Nov 22, 2020 5:02 pm

is there a "step-up" variant of Sony X700? I guess X800M2?
Does either of these, or any other players that are similar/identical in playback, have plexintegration in any way?

shawnc22
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Re: Dolby Vision now possible through MP4 Mux.

Post by shawnc22 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 6:10 pm

lexyz wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:40 am
shawnc22 wrote:
Sun Nov 22, 2020 9:16 am
Been hearing some pretty negative things about this release over at the blu-ray forums. It sounds like it wasn't a very good encode by the StudioCanal folks. Let's see what the Lionsgate release (assuming it's a different encode) in two weeks looks like.
Shuttle scene is atrocious indeed
But with this sample I see more film grain back in DV and it works like dithering for poor-encoded BL
DV looks noticably better than HDR10

Few observastion from sample without conclusions
DLST is identical to DLDT on UBP-X700
DLST on Shield has noticably lower PQ in compare to UBP-X700

Btw Lionsgate uses SC encode

And another sample
Grinch (FEL) https://gofile.io/d/WO2j3E
This is CG without any film grain to test gradient quality
There is a nice day time change around 1 min mark with red to blue sky gradient
Shield demonstrates pixalisation
ah that's a bummer if the lionsgate release will be using the same encode. SC is notorious for these kind of releases where the base layer is just plain bad and then they try to salvage it with these huge FELs

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